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Fuel warnings
mike- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 5172
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
- Post n°1
Fuel warnings
On the news i saw that there may be a tanker driver strike at Easter with army drivers being used,fortunately if i fill up next week i will have enough for my Easter trip but worth remembering.
Cazz- Posts : 2052
Join date : 2011-07-14
Age : 48
Location : Staffordshire
- Post n°2
Re: Fuel warnings
I've not heard, thanks for the heads up, we'll make sure we fill the car's tank up so that Wayne can actually get to work over Easter.
Caz1960- Posts : 1716
Join date : 2011-09-04
Age : 64
Location : Cardigan west wales
- Post n°3
Re: Fuel warnings
thanks for the heads up fuel up and get food in to sit it out but as always fingers crossed something will be done as it kills us in rural areas no buses or trains to rely on and everything is such a long drive in time but short in distance all fuel consuming
Nick- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 570
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Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°4
Re: Fuel warnings
i heard that the drivers doing a 37hr week on £45k PA were moaning about pay and conditions,they were protesting only a few years ago about this and got some kind resolve.I am sure they will get loads of sympathy from the public and the significantly worse off lads in the army who cannot strike.Striking in a recession really doesn't win support from all those poor soles out of work and even those who are in work.
Tow Itch- Dandy Expert
- Posts : 3186
Join date : 2011-06-20
Location : Leigh Gtr Manchester
- Post n°5
Re: Fuel warnings
The oil companies are no longer interested in vertical integration.
They reckon there is no money in selling petrol domestically only oil trading.
Hence we have a newly refurbished oil refinery going bust. Tesco and Asda jointly owning a refinery.
The work contracts have been going south from being with the oil companies to various intermediaries.
Not one of these drivers sold me junk bonds nor got me to contribute to a pension for 20 years then changed the terms.
My dad worked for the Coal Board. I can't remember if it was his career as a communist agitator or our want to replace the gold plated parquet floor that caused him to strike in the 70's
It won't necessarily do me any good but I hope they fight their corner.
They reckon there is no money in selling petrol domestically only oil trading.
Hence we have a newly refurbished oil refinery going bust. Tesco and Asda jointly owning a refinery.
The work contracts have been going south from being with the oil companies to various intermediaries.
Not one of these drivers sold me junk bonds nor got me to contribute to a pension for 20 years then changed the terms.
My dad worked for the Coal Board. I can't remember if it was his career as a communist agitator or our want to replace the gold plated parquet floor that caused him to strike in the 70's
It won't necessarily do me any good but I hope they fight their corner.
mike- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 5172
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
- Post n°6
Re: Fuel warnings
Was told for a long time now BP has stood for Beyond Petrol
Kimmie- Posts : 181
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : West Gippsland, Victoria, Australia
- Post n°7
Re: Fuel warnings
NickB wrote:i heard that the drivers doing a 37hr week on £45k PA were moaning about pay and conditions,they were protesting only a few years ago about this and got some kind resolve.I am sure they will get loads of sympathy from the public and the significantly worse off lads in the army who cannot strike.Striking in a recession really doesn't win support from all those poor soles out of work and even those who are in work.
45k for driving a tanker !!!!!
Think midwifery may have been a wrong career choice
Striking for us wouldn't be an option for us either. Nope no sympathy here
The Admiral- Posts : 534
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 66
Location : Wolverhampton
- Post n°8
Re: Fuel warnings
None from me either, I actually needed to top up the car tonight and I have just spent 30 mins queuing at the petrol station! I also blame that mo**n David Cameron for opening his big trap this morning and telling everybody to keep their petrol tanks topped up so that's what all the sheep appear to be doing!!
Nick- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 570
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Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°9
Re: Fuel warnings
everything is normal up here no panic buying yet.According to my cars little computer i have 540miles left in the tanks so i will be good for about 2 weeks if a fuel crisis does happen.
I would totally support any protest over the cost/tax of fuel as this affects us all.
I would totally support any protest over the cost/tax of fuel as this affects us all.
The Admiral- Posts : 534
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 66
Location : Wolverhampton
- Post n°10
Re: Fuel warnings
So would I to a degree, but this strike is supposedly about H&S and training and oh yes we'll complain about wages whilst we're at it. For heavens sake the average tanker driver earns about £45,000 , no I'm sorry no sympathy at all from me.NickB wrote:I would totally support any protest over the cost/tax of fuel as this affects us all.
Caz1960- Posts : 1716
Join date : 2011-09-04
Age : 64
Location : Cardigan west wales
- Post n°11
Re: Fuel warnings
I would support them if it was about fuel cost's and taxes but not reasons the whining git's that should be grateful to have a job let alone at that wage bracket
Kimmie- Posts : 181
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : West Gippsland, Victoria, Australia
- Post n°12
Re: Fuel warnings
Caz1960 wrote:I would support them if it was about fuel cost's and taxes but not reasons the whining git's that should be grateful to have a job let alone at that wage bracket
Well said that woman
Helen- Dandy Owner
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- Post n°13
Re: Fuel warnings
If they do strike close to Easter it won't help the economy at all, people will stay at home rather than risk being caught short and that means the places who rely on tourists and day trippers will suffer.
We are already re-considering our Easter plans and will probably stay close to home instead. If it was about keeping the cost of fuel down fair enough but if we're talking about conditions, wages and pensions then they want to try working where John does for a couple of weeks on his pay or perhaps go to the front line where the soldiers who earn a lot less are risking life and limb daily.
Rant Over.
We are already re-considering our Easter plans and will probably stay close to home instead. If it was about keeping the cost of fuel down fair enough but if we're talking about conditions, wages and pensions then they want to try working where John does for a couple of weeks on his pay or perhaps go to the front line where the soldiers who earn a lot less are risking life and limb daily.
Rant Over.
Kimmie- Posts : 181
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : West Gippsland, Victoria, Australia
- Post n°14
Re: Fuel warnings
Well ranted!
Helen- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
- Post n°15
Re: Fuel warnings
Well it's happening already, the country's gone nuts !
Our local Asda has shut it's pumps and at the petrol station near John's works people are literally fisti-cuffs to get fuel, at Morrisons people have been queuing over an hour and some stations are restricting you to £10 of fuel per car.
Jerry can sales have gone up by 400% ......... terrible advice to give the nation the crisis at the moment has been caused by our leaders telling us to fill up and store fuel
John will probably not be able to get to work next week and will lose pay, as will some people who are living from week to week just about treading water during the recession, there will be people who need to get to appointments for medical reasons and can't and people looking after elderly or vulnerable relatives who can't get to them. Our Easter plans being spoiled pale into insignificance when you think of the distress that this will cause.
It seems it's now 'every man for himself', thank goodness they didn't have the same attitude during the fist and second world wars when people really did have nothing. Where has the United gone from United Kingdom and where has the Great gone from Great Britain.
Sorry for the extra rant but the implications of this are terrible for some.
Our local Asda has shut it's pumps and at the petrol station near John's works people are literally fisti-cuffs to get fuel, at Morrisons people have been queuing over an hour and some stations are restricting you to £10 of fuel per car.
Jerry can sales have gone up by 400% ......... terrible advice to give the nation the crisis at the moment has been caused by our leaders telling us to fill up and store fuel
John will probably not be able to get to work next week and will lose pay, as will some people who are living from week to week just about treading water during the recession, there will be people who need to get to appointments for medical reasons and can't and people looking after elderly or vulnerable relatives who can't get to them. Our Easter plans being spoiled pale into insignificance when you think of the distress that this will cause.
It seems it's now 'every man for himself', thank goodness they didn't have the same attitude during the fist and second world wars when people really did have nothing. Where has the United gone from United Kingdom and where has the Great gone from Great Britain.
Sorry for the extra rant but the implications of this are terrible for some.
Kimmie- Posts : 181
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : West Gippsland, Victoria, Australia
- Post n°16
Re: Fuel warnings
Just been to get petrol as I was running on fumes . Massive queues everywhere and a lot dry already.
One way to boost the economy! Thanks mr cameron
One way to boost the economy! Thanks mr cameron
mike- Dandy Owner
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Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
- Post n°17
Re: Fuel warnings
Thats one advantage of going to work early,filled up at 4.30 am on our way to work no one else there should have enough for Easter now.
Nick- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 570
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°18
Re: Fuel warnings
no one queuing at our local fuel station,i still have 510miles left in the tank so should be ok for next 2weeks.
Tow Itch- Dandy Expert
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Join date : 2011-06-20
Location : Leigh Gtr Manchester
- Post n°19
Re: Fuel warnings
It's tight times and it's not the people at the top who get pinched.
The Daily Mail castigated the working class or selfish striking sections of it during The General Strike and hasn't changed its tune since.
Think your job, it's terms or conditions are secure think again.
You'll either get it or already had it both barrels.
The few in the position to fight will be portrayed as lazy, greedy and or selfish.
First the cuts came for the Teachers,
and I did not speak out for the Teachers because I don't get to toss it off for six weeks over summer.
Then the cuts came for the Nurses
and I did not speak out for the Nurses because they spend half the day gossiping and still get a final salary pension scheme
Then the cuts came for the Tanker Drivers
and I did not speak out for the Tanker Drivers because we all know their on at least £45K for a 35 hr week
Then the cuts came for me
and I thought there was no one left to speak out for me, but there was it was just that I was so preoccupied with fuel for my Easter break or having to take time off if Timmy was sent home from school that all of the above believed the Daily Mail when they said I was a selfish gobshi7£ too and they left me to suffer.
With desperate and unreserved apologies to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
The Daily Mail castigated the working class or selfish striking sections of it during The General Strike and hasn't changed its tune since.
Think your job, it's terms or conditions are secure think again.
You'll either get it or already had it both barrels.
The few in the position to fight will be portrayed as lazy, greedy and or selfish.
First the cuts came for the Teachers,
and I did not speak out for the Teachers because I don't get to toss it off for six weeks over summer.
Then the cuts came for the Nurses
and I did not speak out for the Nurses because they spend half the day gossiping and still get a final salary pension scheme
Then the cuts came for the Tanker Drivers
and I did not speak out for the Tanker Drivers because we all know their on at least £45K for a 35 hr week
Then the cuts came for me
and I thought there was no one left to speak out for me, but there was it was just that I was so preoccupied with fuel for my Easter break or having to take time off if Timmy was sent home from school that all of the above believed the Daily Mail when they said I was a selfish gobshi7£ too and they left me to suffer.
With desperate and unreserved apologies to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Nick- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 570
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°20
Re: Fuel warnings
We have had 2 bouts of strikes in the last 5yrs where i work and although i was not in favour of them i went along with it as they are very militant where i work and i wasn't going to rock the boat for the sake of a few days pay.
What we did lose in pay by striking we got back over the next year with pay increase,so all the trouble we caused by being on strike didn't really benefit anyone.
But at least i wasn't in the union as i would have lost even more money lining their pockets.
I enjoy my job and am lucky enough to be very well protected in my job and also still benefit from a 3.5% pay rise this year.
Moving from the private sector to the public sector was the biggest shock of my working life,i couldn't believe it when we went on strike and i couldn't believe how easy we have it compared to people who work in the private sector,i think it would be hard for me to go back to the private sector now.
People just need to get a grip as of yet no dates for industrial action have been announced just the usual s**t being spouted by the union and press,the govt know exactly what they are saying,they want panic at the pumps as it gives them more ammunition and support against the unions and tanker drivers.
What we did lose in pay by striking we got back over the next year with pay increase,so all the trouble we caused by being on strike didn't really benefit anyone.
But at least i wasn't in the union as i would have lost even more money lining their pockets.
I enjoy my job and am lucky enough to be very well protected in my job and also still benefit from a 3.5% pay rise this year.
Moving from the private sector to the public sector was the biggest shock of my working life,i couldn't believe it when we went on strike and i couldn't believe how easy we have it compared to people who work in the private sector,i think it would be hard for me to go back to the private sector now.
People just need to get a grip as of yet no dates for industrial action have been announced just the usual s**t being spouted by the union and press,the govt know exactly what they are saying,they want panic at the pumps as it gives them more ammunition and support against the unions and tanker drivers.
Caz1960- Posts : 1716
Join date : 2011-09-04
Age : 64
Location : Cardigan west wales
- Post n°21
Re: Fuel warnings
around here there are no jobs as such ..supermarkets but only part time , carer's as population here are mainly Geriatric, or like the rest of us that are not farmers.. self employed and work 24/7 and 365 days if we could no paid holls , sick pay , and pensions to think of as the government hasn't made that easy.. so sorry striking is not on my sympathy list as working situations now are allot different than they were they got loo's indoors running hot and cold water what more do you want
Nick- Dandy Owner
- Posts : 570
Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°22
Re: Fuel warnings
Caz1960 wrote: around here there are no jobs as such ..supermarkets but only part time , carer's as population here are mainly Geriatric, or like the rest of us that are not farmers.. self employed and work 24/7 and 365 days if we could no paid holls , sick pay , and pensions to think of as the government hasn't made that easy.. so sorry striking is not on my sympathy list as working situations now are allot different than they were they got loo's indoors running hot and cold water what more do you want
6 weeks holiday 6 weeks sick pay and 4hrs of tea/coffee breaks a day well its not unreasonable
Helen- Dandy Owner
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- Post n°23
Re: Fuel warnings
It's a rolling stone and they gather moss, the thing is that the people who don't panic buy end up buying simply because if they don't there won't be any petrol there for when they need it as every other bugger has filled to the brim and the stations are running out fast.
I heard they were going to bring the army in to get fuel to stations so don't understand why the media and government have caused a panic like they have ...... it's just irresponsible.
John is going to share the journey to work with someone else who lives about mile from here, it also cuts the cost in half and saves wear and tear on the car so it's probably done us a favour.
I heard they were going to bring the army in to get fuel to stations so don't understand why the media and government have caused a panic like they have ...... it's just irresponsible.
John is going to share the journey to work with someone else who lives about mile from here, it also cuts the cost in half and saves wear and tear on the car so it's probably done us a favour.
Nick- Dandy Owner
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Age : 49
Location : Tyne and Wear
- Post n°24
Re: Fuel warnings
I am lucky enough to be able to take a work van home after work which saves my fuel as i work 15miles from home,but i do wonder if they decide to clamp down on this if things get bad up here.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
- Post n°25
Re: Fuel warnings
When we had the last shortage in 2000 i stopped my driver taking the deliveries and did it myself,from filling a transit twice a week i did a weeks deliveries on one tank just driving for economy.
Will add no i didn't double the mpg i vastly improved it planned my deliveries better and didn't do any 20 mile detours to the best cake shop and then another 5 miles to a nice picnic spot,yes ive been a delivery driver
Will add no i didn't double the mpg i vastly improved it planned my deliveries better and didn't do any 20 mile detours to the best cake shop and then another 5 miles to a nice picnic spot,yes ive been a delivery driver
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