by Tow Itch Tue 06 Aug 2013, 5:25 pm
jake001 wrote: Tow Itch wrote: jake001 wrote:My Mini wheels are in fact marked as +24 which is probably ok, maybe Mr Issigonis did use MKS measurments
Offset or ET (in German) is often measured in mm but if marked +24 you are measuring +31.7 or +31.8.
I'm not thinking your measurements were likely to be 12.6/8mm out?
Bring the two spare wheels and we will get the tape measure out after a gallon of cider on Fri or Sat. That should sort everything out. Or maybe not.
I think that actually my measurements whilst accurate (digital caliper in depth gauge mode) were wrong.
I measured from the actual rim but the proper measurement is from the shoulder just inside the rim where the tyre bead sits (see your previous ref
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Well in their illustration they are not using j section rims. However isn't it immaterial? Measuring to the outside might be erroneous if we were measuring the width of the wheel say a 3.5" wheel so should be 88.9mm but we measure an additional 12mm because of 2 X 6mm j sections and measure 100.9mm
If this wheel has a 1" offset we measure on one side 0.75" = 19.05mm plus the erroneous 6mm = 25.05mm the other side is 2.75" = 69.85mm plus the 6mm error = 75.85mm
75.85 + 25.05 = 100.9mm so we have erroneously measured the wheels width as 3
31/
32nds"
75.85mm - 25.05mm = 50.8mm which we then divide by 2 to get 25.4mm = 1"
Sorry Jake I'm not taking the rip putting by all the figures in place I'm sure you could see it in your head. It's just so everyone who doesn't do much maths gets to see how it works.
When I put the figures in I went to subtract 19.05mm not 25.05mm and couldn't work out why I had gone wrong. So I suppose it's good to use the figures sometimes.
So back to the drawing board over where the error came in if you are assuming 24mm or 25.4mm to be right. You got 31.8mm so we have an 6.4mm to 7.8mm and as we half the difference we should be looking for a measured error of 12.8mm to 15.6mm.
If you measured to different sides of the flange face we would be out by the thickness of the metal divided by 2 so only 1.5mm to 2mm I'd guess.
Did you guess or take the wheel being 3.5 inch as a given? If so and the j was more like
1/
2 an inch rather than 6mm then we have our error.
Or do you think it's elsewhere?