I've got a bit of a bag on with regard to stability at the moment. I can see massive differences between what I had originally, then the 4, also the Designer I subsequently bought. My post wasn't meant to be an essay on what I'd found out and what I now thought. (if this post is taking the thread off topic please shunt elsewhere) It was a caution about what I had experienced but I openly invited comment because I thought a 6 would be a better tow than the unit I had. What I was meaning to invite was others direct comparison between towing rear entry Dandys and 6's of various forms, particularly with light vehicles. I know I didn't say that though did I?
To qualify the snaking I was taking about the beginning of the trailer feeling uncomfortable. I never pushed things to the point of violent instability some have experienced. Nor through good driving or the grace of God did I have to perform a sudden and heavy manoeuvre which can bring about violent snaking. There is a significant amount of opinion that stabilisers damp out the feeling of instability of the onset of snaking but would be no use in controlling the violent snake brought on by a hard manoeuvre.
Snaking at over 60mph imo is not relevant to any combination,
No in this country it should not be. What I was talking about was not a wild speed abuse thing. It occurred with the assistance of suitable conditions at or not much beyond a speedo reading of 60mph. Those of you with sat nav will be aware that, that is not a speed of 60mph. UK speedos have been required to be within 10% therefore ACPO speeding prosecution guidelines set at speed +10% + 2mph. EU directive never less and +10% + 10kph. So new speedos (quite accurate) are set by engineers to middle limits so generally read at + 8%.
Laws (beyond common law) are not generally set by logic and sense. May I contrast the 60mph speed limit to the notes on stability and towing a Dandy in the early 80's and 1991 brochure (Sorry cant link PDF's ) also the French trailer speed limits see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
(N.B. I would have to confess to towing the two rear end Dandys at a good bit beyond 60mph)
I can't comment on steerable trailers as against Dandy's as I haven't towed one and all I meant to do was contrast 6's and rear entry Dandys.
Violent manoeuvre snakes: I have possibly woefully abused my 4 and Designer (though once upon a time pushing to limits was thought to be a good idea, as you then knew where they are) and might get bit very badly one day if it comes to a violent manoeuvre, but I think the rear entry Dandys are wonderfully stable. My old large FC? I wouldn't have wanted to get into that position it was driven on as much anticipation as I could manage. A Dandy 6 in such conditions? Mike managed through. I'm certain I remember Mr EM have an underwear threatening moment in his highside Destiny but can't find details. I didn't want to enter into this subject as I think there might be a lot of issues and all I really wanted to cover was the "comfort" zone.
Maybee I just had a pig of a large FC / Trailer tent. I still don't know what it was (And if you know me I HAVE looked) beyond it was like some things made by Creighton Binns. My mates caravan was easier to tow except it's wheel spacing caused it to ride up and down the troughs in lane 1 of the M62, M60 and M6. So what I wanted was a towing comparison of 6's to rear entry Dandys to try and assist Ali's decision process. That's not what I actually asked for so all I did was probably add superfluous information or just added confusion. Well nothing new for me there.
The 1991 Brochure quotes "All Models Except The Destiny Can Be Towed By A Very Small Engined Car Such As A 600cc 2cv Citroen. The Destiny Would Require A 1000cc Car Such As A Metro" There you go then all the comment we ever needed.