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Dandy trailer tent diy insulation options and ideas
Helen- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
A very nice man sent me these pictures to post in the hope that it helps out, he has done a very neat job and the other advantage is that there is no damp feeling underneath the mattresses in the mornings that you can sometimes experience.
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mike- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
Think i have sorted an easy way to insulate the bed end pvc will try to explain,it uses the table protector but requires no press studs or velcro fixings.
First cut a piece of protector the exact size of the end wall pvc,with the exception of the drop this needs to be about 4 or 5 in longer,then at the top of it fix a wooden baton that with the thickness of protector brings it out to be as thick as the metal frame at the top.
On this baton you put two metal hangers like the awning to wall pieces,then the insulation will hang from the top, the bottom is allowed to go below the the bed frame so when the pvc is pulled under the bed board and bungeed into place it will trap the bottom holding it.
The thing is if its going to be fitted each time you use the dandy it needs to be quick and simple,i will do one wall in the next 2 or 3 weeks ready to try in September then post pics and a report,also Eilis can give a none technical opinion and say if its something she feels she could do herself.
mike
First cut a piece of protector the exact size of the end wall pvc,with the exception of the drop this needs to be about 4 or 5 in longer,then at the top of it fix a wooden baton that with the thickness of protector brings it out to be as thick as the metal frame at the top.
On this baton you put two metal hangers like the awning to wall pieces,then the insulation will hang from the top, the bottom is allowed to go below the the bed frame so when the pvc is pulled under the bed board and bungeed into place it will trap the bottom holding it.
The thing is if its going to be fitted each time you use the dandy it needs to be quick and simple,i will do one wall in the next 2 or 3 weeks ready to try in September then post pics and a report,also Eilis can give a none technical opinion and say if its something she feels she could do herself.
mike
Helen- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
So if I am correct it sounds very similar to what I was suggesting but using a baton or have I got it all wrong Mike, just interested as Laura's Dandy isn't insulated. I am now picturing a wooden baton with U shaped hooks over the metal batwing frame to hold in place and with suitable material hanging from that and tucked in at the bottom.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 75
Location : north east lincs
helen wrote:So if I am correct it sounds very similar to what I was suggesting but using a baton or have I got it all wrong Mike, just interested as Laura's Dandy isn't insulated. I am now picturing a wooden baton with U shaped hooks over the metal batwing frame to hold in place and with suitable material hanging from that and tucked in at the bottom.
That sounds right Helen,as i say one will be in place by September for you to see in the flesh,I will post pictures first though.
mike
Helen- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
mike wrote:helen wrote:So if I am correct it sounds very similar to what I was suggesting but using a baton or have I got it all wrong Mike, just interested as Laura's Dandy isn't insulated. I am now picturing a wooden baton with U shaped hooks over the metal batwing frame to hold in place and with suitable material hanging from that and tucked in at the bottom.
That sounds right Helen,as i say one will be in place by September for you to see in the flesh,I will post pictures first though.
mike
Sounds like a plan to me but your Dandy doesn't have the pvc front windows but I suppose doing it this way you could always roll up the front liner in the mornings If you add a couple of ties.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Complete privacy as well doing it that way.
Helen- Dandy Owner
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I think this will be the way we go with Laura's as it is relatively easy to do and as you can choose to still see through the front windows during the day I think its a great idea, I know people have come up with methods to insulate a 6 before but the problem was always going to be blocking off the front windows in smaller Dandys. This method solves that
mike- Dandy Owner
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helen wrote:I think this will be the way we go with Laura's as it is relatively easy to do and as you can choose to still see through the front windows during the day I think its a great idea, I know people have come up with methods to insulate a 6 before but the problem was always going to be blocking off the front windows in smaller Dandys. This method solves that
Also it needs to be quick and simple,i will be using white table protector though as i may as well give the interior a bit of a lift,the other way with velcro and press studs always struck me as a lot of messing about every time.
Helen- Dandy Owner
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I think that Laura would also like a white interior to brighten it up a bit so that's a bonus
Lol and Steve- Posts : 121
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 61
Location : Liverpool
Hi Mike,
I think the white table protector is just the job and will brighten the inside up really well.
If mine wasn't already insulated the white table protector would be what i would use.
Look forward to seeing your photo's.
Lol and Steve- Posts : 121
Join date : 2011-06-14
Age : 61
Location : Liverpool
Hi Helen,
Another thought is:
If Laura always uses her awning then she wouldn't really need to insulate the awning side, just the window side, cos when the awning is on it usually insulates the side it's on as it comes right to the edge on the smaller dandy's, and she wouldn't have any messing about trying to roll up the insulation for extra light either.
Helen- Dandy Owner
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That's a good point Lorraine but she also has a sun canopy so if she makes a full set (so to speak) she can use them as needed.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Would just say the white i have seen is thinner than some of the eabay type and i think more like a plastic finish,the thinner doesn't bother me as it is still designed to stop heat getting to your table and the more plastic may be a good thing,if it turns out to work though i will have off cuts i could send to any one who wanted to see a sample.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Update such as it is,bought the insulation/protector today to do the one wall,very pleased with the material,it can even be hand washed at 40.
The down side is with the packaging of it,its been folded so i now have to flatten it to get the creases out, will drape it in the bedroom for a week see if the sun can do it if not will try the iron the idiots that have packed it also stuck the detail card on with none setting sticky stuff which warm water with a detergent in wont remove it completely,so hoping what's left will dry now the air can get to it.
All this means tomorrow wont be the day but we have next Friday off so a long weekend to play if the material sorts its self out.
The size we needed to do one wall was £13.99 but out of stock, we bought the next one up which was £15.99 so its cheap enough.
mike
The down side is with the packaging of it,its been folded so i now have to flatten it to get the creases out, will drape it in the bedroom for a week see if the sun can do it if not will try the iron the idiots that have packed it also stuck the detail card on with none setting sticky stuff which warm water with a detergent in wont remove it completely,so hoping what's left will dry now the air can get to it.
All this means tomorrow wont be the day but we have next Friday off so a long weekend to play if the material sorts its self out.
The size we needed to do one wall was £13.99 but out of stock, we bought the next one up which was £15.99 so its cheap enough.
mike
mike- Dandy Owner
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Just been to b&q to look for fixings and two brackets are over £6 at screwfix its £4 for 10
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Tow Itch- Dandy Expert
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Join date : 2011-06-20
Location : Leigh Gtr Manchester
Dear Mike
Screwfix and B&Q co-owned.
Prefer independents, but at last choice try Toolstation.
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£3.00 for 10
Screwfix and B&Q co-owned.
Prefer independents, but at last choice try Toolstation.
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£3.00 for 10
mike- Dandy Owner
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Tow Itch wrote: Dear Mike
Screwfix and B&Q co-owned.
Prefer independents, but at last choice try Toolstation.
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£3.00 for 10
Thanks kevin
mike- Dandy Owner
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Weather forecast for tomorrow is good,its raining on and off today,so hopefully will get the test wall done at long last.
mike- Dandy Owner
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Got the test wall done,not happy with quiet a bit of it but it will make a test possible in September,hoping for hot days and cool nights need some condensation :lol:it looks as though suspending it will work but need to find a neater way to do it.
Got your awning poles done Eilis
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Got your awning poles done Eilis
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Helen- Dandy Owner
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That looks good Mike, nice and bright too.
Eilis- Dandy Owner
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Join date : 2011-06-12
Age : 58
Location : Lowestoft, Suffolk
mike wrote:Got the test wall done,not happy with quiet a bit of it but it will make a test possible in September,hoping for hot days and cool nights need some condensation :lol:it looks as though suspending it will work but need to find a neater way to do it.
Got your awning poles done Eilis
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thanks mike will have a nice clean awning to use them with lol am looking forward to seeing how you do the insulation as i'd like to sort mine out before we camp in winter
mike- Dandy Owner
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Eilis i have a full workshop and woodworking tools but i want to come up with a way of doing it that any one without these things can do.
mike
mike
Eilis- Dandy Owner
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mike wrote:Eilis i have a full workshop and woodworking tools but i want to come up with a way of doing it that any one without these things can do.
mike
considering i don't have a workshop and woodworking tools that's a good plan lol
Cazz- Posts : 2052
Join date : 2011-07-14
Age : 48
Location : Staffordshire
Mike, I'm watching closely and looking forward to your review on the performance. Also I thinks it's fab how are you are doing it for any one to achieve with basic tools and equipment.
As you are well aware I will need to do ours for colder camping as we did buy one without insulation, against strong advice, but what a find - a small price to pay.
As you are well aware I will need to do ours for colder camping as we did buy one without insulation, against strong advice, but what a find - a small price to pay.
mike- Dandy Owner
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cazz wrote:Mike, I'm watching closely and looking forward to your review on the performance. Also I thinks it's fab how are you are doing it for any one to achieve with basic tools and equipment.
As you are well aware I will need to do ours for colder camping as we did buy one without insulation, against strong advice, but what a find - a small price to pay.
Thanks cazz just need condensation weather in September,you see bet we dont get it
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