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Caz1960
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Post by Caz1960 on Mon 18 Jun 2012, 11:42 pm

Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 2197500976 didn't know that about them scanning early so when I come back I best get to work and think i will look at the box and camera combie Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 115684958 Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 115684958 Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 115684958
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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 8:19 am

Well we got a telephone report yesterday on the caravan ............ we did have our suspicions as it turned out when we got the documentation back that the people we bought if off only had the van 3 weeks, the camper-van they had just bought and we're waiting for the documents for (up graded from the van because kids had grown we were told) is for sale. Looks like dealing but selling as private sellers perhaps because you have some come back when it comes to business sellers and descriptions.

When we took it in on the Saturday morning one of the men had come in on his own time to open up for us to drop it off and when we pointed out the area of concern he showed us the failed window seal and had a quick look over the pit, we could have just had that repaired but wanted it checking out thoroughly and this is what they found

Our van had a few problems hidden by sealant, ply-wood and new carpets, the result is a bill for £950 affraid

It is at a reputable place just near where it's been living and the works will be guaranteed, the good news is that it's still worth more than what we paid plus the cost of repairs and I am also having it fully serviced too so that's £300 of the bill. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

It's having a rail taken off, re-sealing before we get problems as it had been botched, a new floor fitted and that failed window seal replacing so I don't think it's a bad price for what's being done. We are having the old carpet put back in - it is after all brand spanking new so no wonder it looked clean, all this will take two weeks so we will use the Dandy on our van pitch for now and Laura will have to stay home ......... for at least 13 more days lol!

I just feel disappointed that we weren't more vigilant and made a rash last minute decision .... the first alarm bell rang when we we're collecting and I was told that the water pump fitted at the front when from childhood memories I thought it should fit to the opposite side ...... and it doe's. Other things also set alarm bells ringing and we ignored them because we we're there with cash in hand ready to tow away and were excited Embarassed Still it could have been so much worse and we did consider and could have paid the £3500 they were asking and still had a repair bill, in two weeks everything will be sorted out and we can then enjoy at our leisure and the total cost including purchase, repairs and peace of mind will be £2998 so not too bad.

I think the moral is that if alarm bells ring even on the last minute ..... listen to them. Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 3498837457

As for dealers masquerading as private sellers .... if you have an address then report to trading standards and the local tax office. Twisted Evil
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Post by Eilis on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 8:26 am

glad it didn't turn into a complete nightmare for you Helen but i am sad that someone is masquerading as a private seller just to make a buck and fool people Sad

at least you know it's sound now and can enjoy it fully, here's hoping that we have good weather this summer for you to enjoy it Smile
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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 8:28 am

Even if we don't it certainly won't leak lol!
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Post by mike on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 11:51 am

Unfortunately the word i would like to use to describe them i censored so lets just call them f^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 4:29 pm

Another phone call another rail needs replacing another £200 Evil or Very Mad
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Post by mike on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 4:37 pm

Hope your considering doing something very sadistic and nasty,i know i would
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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 5:24 pm

Oh yes Mike we are taking action but doing it legally, it will take time but we are not going to just sit back and do nothing. Gas pipe was dated 1996 and had cracked hence using a lot of gas the weekend we actually used it. Just pleased we put a fan heater in it for when Evie was there rather than use the gas affraid John thinks we've been made fools of but we're only fools if we do nothing about this.

Full report also ordered to prove the case Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 3498837457
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Post by jake001 on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 7:04 pm

Buying a used caravan is a minefield, and there are a lot of dodgy sellers out there. The real problem is that most of us are honest and can't imagine anyone telling outright lies in order to sell something. We always imagine Arthur Daley dealers ripping us off (and they do) but at least there is some straightforward legal protection in the case of a proper dealer. Most modern caravans suffer from some kind of water ingress as soon as the warranty runs out Shocked As a rough estimate the awning rails and windows need re-sealing every 5 years or so affraid This is why I have a dead Lunar by the side of the house, I didn't re-seal it Sad

THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT A DANDY cheers cheers At least I can fix it, although I'm sure I paid far too much Crying or Very sad

Anyway go get 'em Helen and I hope you make them suffer Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 7:52 pm

Thanks Jake,

turns out that although you have no comeback with ebay for trailer tents, vehicles or caravans the law says I have a case even against a private seller because the seller knew about the faults (fitted new carpet to hide one of them )but lied in the description (already contacted lady they bought it off - they knew about the faults) ....... I'm past caring about the cost (luckily in a position to pay without worrying) just angry about the safety issue and will do everything I can to stop them doing this again. Trading standards are already onto it ...... tax man informed too, there is some satisfaction in being a thorn in some ones side for as long as it takes ..... I'm now looking into if your allowed to trade from a council house as we can prove that they are trading Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 344726530

Anyway whilst I'm annoying them someone else is getting some peace lol!

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Post by Helen on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 8:04 pm

Moaning a lot today .......... football again .... men kicking a ball about for 90 minutes for vast amounts of money and they get in my living room on my tv courtesy of John Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Cazz on Tue 19 Jun 2012, 9:37 pm

Sorry to hear about your caravan Helen, but thankfully it looks like it's going to turn out ok in the end for you, at least you'll know where you're at with it. But I agree, pursue it as far as you can, it's not fair some people keep getting away with it. Evil or Very Mad


And I agree with your football thoughts, it's millionaires kicking a bag of wind around. lol!
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Post by Eilis on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 8:30 am

well i seem to be having lots of trouble with people hacking into my email and other password protected things at the moment

i've changed passwords yet again but if you have received dodgy emails from me i apologise but plead not guilty lol

not quite sure why i'm being targetted as i'm not doing anything exciting at all

bit fed up as it's happened a couple of times over the last few weeks Mad
Caz1960
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Post by Caz1960 on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 11:30 am

Helen wrote:Well we got a telephone report yesterday on the caravan ............ we did have our suspicions as it turned out when we got the documentation back that the people we bought if off only had the van 3 weeks, the camper-van they had just bought and we're waiting for the documents for (up graded from the van because kids had grown we were told) is for sale. Looks like dealing but selling as private sellers perhaps because you have some come back when it comes to business sellers and descriptions.

When we took it in on the Saturday morning one of the men had come in on his own time to open up for us to drop it off and when we pointed out the area of concern he showed us the failed window seal and had a quick look over the pit, we could have just had that repaired but wanted it checking out thoroughly and this is what they found

Our van had a few problems hidden by sealant, ply-wood and new carpets, the result is a bill for £950 affraid

It is at a reputable place just near where it's been living and the works will be guaranteed, the good news is that it's still worth more than what we paid plus the cost of repairs and I am also having it fully serviced too so that's £300 of the bill. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

It's having a rail taken off, re-sealing before we get problems as it had been botched, a new floor fitted and that failed window seal replacing so I don't think it's a bad price for what's being done. We are having the old carpet put back in - it is after all brand spanking new so no wonder it looked clean, all this will take two weeks so we will use the Dandy on our van pitch for now and Laura will have to stay home ......... for at least 13 more days lol!

I just feel disappointed that we weren't more vigilant and made a rash last minute decision .... the first alarm bell rang when we we're collecting and I was told that the water pump fitted at the front when from childhood memories I thought it should fit to the opposite side ...... and it doe's. Other things also set alarm bells ringing and we ignored them because we we're there with cash in hand ready to tow away and were excited Embarassed Still it could have been so much worse and we did consider and could have paid the £3500 they were asking and still had a repair bill, in two weeks everything will be sorted out and we can then enjoy at our leisure and the total cost including purchase, repairs and peace of mind will be £2998 so not too bad.

I think the moral is that if alarm bells ring even on the last minute ..... listen to them. Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 3498837457

As for dealers masquerading as private sellers .... if you have an address then report to trading standards and the local tax office. Twisted Evil


Smile fully understand woman on a mission, cash burning pocket, Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 1468157981 ruling head, want and NEED over take logic .The worst thing is the feeling that you have been had Evil or Very Mad and when you start pealing back the layers of lie's that the seller tells you Suspect why can they not just tell the truth What a Face I'm the same once I bought a camper-van £500 Bargain but after spending lots of money still never got her on the road but the up side got my Dandy and just seen a firm around the corner that if you have a van they will convert it to a camper to your spec start at £5000.00 brilliant food for thought Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 3462454224 Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 3462454224


Caz1960
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Post by Caz1960 on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 11:39 am

"THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT A DANDY At least I can fix it, although I'm sure I paid far too much" Jake001

Dandy's come in all different states but don't think you could of paid too much as all the trips that you will take would be more so than a car/spit/van and to be honest once you have done all those loving touches to it in the future you wont loose money but gain Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 2702329197 Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 2702329197
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Post by Caz1960 on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 11:45 am

Eilis wrote:well i seem to be having lots of trouble with people hacking into my email and other password protected things at the moment

i've changed passwords yet again but if you have received dodgy emails from me i apologise but plead not guilty lol

not quite sure why i'm being targetted as i'm not doing anything exciting at all

bit fed up as it's happened a couple of times over the last few weeks Mad

my niece has had the same problem as I was shocked affraid to receive a hard porn email from her and wiped the floor with her Evil or Very Mad bless her we the found that she was hacked and she was unaware pale phew thank god she forgave me : note to self ask first react later flower
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Post by bgarston on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 11:59 am

Helen wrote:I'm now looking into if your allowed to trade from a council house as we can prove that they are trading

Helen,

This is the information given by Waverley Borough Council: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and this is the information given by South Derbyshire District Council: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I think you'll find this policy will change from one Local Authority to another so you'll have to check this out with the LA in question. Best of luck with this, I hope you get this sorted soon.

Ben
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Post by Helen on Wed 20 Jun 2012, 2:02 pm

Thanks for the links Ben, I will look into the council in question.

I am on a mission now ...... not so much because it's cost money but more because the workshop said it was a potential death trap affraid my family including my little pride and joy Evie were put at risk because of these people, it could have been sold to someone who didn't get it thoroughly checked over but just sorted the window seal out. Have already contacted lots of people including Trading Standards and the law enforcement people on flea-bay and the campervan has already been taken off, I'm going to continue for as long as it takes because even a private seller has to tell you of serious problems they know about and it turns out that they did know. I'm quite enjoying my investigating Suspect and I go green when I'm angry alien

My lovely and safe van will be ready to collect a week on Friday ....... best get me a dongle because I now want my monies worth and will be residing in Wales as much as possible Laughing

anyway enough about Caravans ...... this is a forum for Dandy's ..... I've had my moan and will let you know the eventual outcome.

I suggest anyone even considering getting a caravan should go out and buy themselves a lovely uncomplicated Dandy Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 184121345

But not mine I'm keeping it for ever and ever Grunts - Groans - Moans - Page 17 2702329197


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Post by Eilis on Thu 21 Jun 2012, 7:36 am

don't want to go to work, want to go back to bed Sleep lol!

seriously need to win the lottery
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Post by mike on Sun 24 Jun 2012, 2:19 pm

Very poor if at all internet no phone signal laptop battery flat tablet playing silly beggars and its raining been to Norwich today and having fun cos its holidays lol!
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Post by MrsG on Sun 24 Jun 2012, 3:08 pm

Helen....as you say you are lucky you are able to pay for the repairs - but most people would have maxed themselves out on buying the damn thing. People make me sick how they think about the money rather than peoples safety, this is a human life we are talking about, not something that can be bought back! Even if you cannot do that much to them, I hope you give them food for thought going forwards. God forbid anything should have happened to any of you.

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Post by Helen on Thu 28 Jun 2012, 11:04 am

The bank has supposedly sorted the problem out now ....... it's us customers who are still dealing with the aftermath of unpaid direct debits and standing orders. I know we won't be out of pocket but it's so damned inconvenient Mad
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Post by Eilis on Thu 28 Jun 2012, 5:11 pm

and they never seem to get punished for the things they do to people
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Post by ayjay13 on Thu 28 Jun 2012, 11:48 pm

the poops hit the fan regarding barclays !
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Post by MrsG on Fri 29 Jun 2012, 7:23 am

Getting more and more worried about our banking system and seriously considering getting a safe instead!

The only decent one not hit by any scandal seems to be HSBC! Sad

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